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Comments on: I just don’t get it; see below http://www.splagkhna.org/i-just-dont-get-it-see-below/ Tue, 07 Feb 2012 16:22:28 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.1.1 By: Erika http://www.splagkhna.org/i-just-dont-get-it-see-below/#comment-6639 Erika Wed, 09 Apr 2008 01:27:08 +0000 http://www.splagkhna.org/i-just-dont-get-it-see-below/#comment-6639 This reminds me of something. There's this game theory idea where if you let players use tags by which they can recognize other players, even if the tags are totally arbitrary, it can change the dynamics of the game, make certain cooperative strategies work that wouldn't otherwise (and maybe make inter-tag conflict possible?). I don't remember it well, and I can't find much about it, the word "tag" has been overrun on google. Here's my best lead: <a href="http://cfpm.org/~david/css-tw1/" rel="nofollow">http://cfpm.org/~david/css-tw1/</a> This reminds me of something. There’s this game theory idea where if you let players use tags by which they can recognize other players, even if the tags are totally arbitrary, it can change the dynamics of the game, make certain cooperative strategies work that wouldn’t otherwise (and maybe make inter-tag conflict possible?). I don’t remember it well, and I can’t find much about it, the word “tag” has been overrun on google. Here’s my best lead: http://cfpm.org/~david/css-tw1/

]]> By: Tania http://www.splagkhna.org/i-just-dont-get-it-see-below/#comment-6642 Tania Wed, 09 Apr 2008 14:36:46 +0000 http://www.splagkhna.org/i-just-dont-get-it-see-below/#comment-6642 I don't know much about the Armenia-Azerbaijan conflict, but a possible reason/excuse could also be religious and historical. In Ottoman Turkey, the Shi'ite Muslims (if I recall correctly) actively supported the genocide against Armenians. This genocide still hasn't been accepted as such by Turkey; thus, there's a lot of anger and resentment towards Turkey as a country and Shi'ites as a religious group. As far as I know, neither has said what happened was a genocide. Not to say I'm in favor of what's been going on, just trying to offer something that may be being used as a reason or excuse. I don’t know much about the Armenia-Azerbaijan conflict, but a possible reason/excuse could also be religious and historical. In Ottoman Turkey, the Shi’ite Muslims (if I recall correctly) actively supported the genocide against Armenians. This genocide still hasn’t been accepted as such by Turkey; thus, there’s a lot of anger and resentment towards Turkey as a country and Shi’ites as a religious group. As far as I know, neither has said what happened was a genocide.

Not to say I’m in favor of what’s been going on, just trying to offer something that may be being used as a reason or excuse.

]]> By: michael5000 http://www.splagkhna.org/i-just-dont-get-it-see-below/#comment-6661 michael5000 Sun, 13 Apr 2008 15:17:10 +0000 http://www.splagkhna.org/i-just-dont-get-it-see-below/#comment-6661 This would have worked pretty well as a final essay in the political geography class I used to teach. I don't know if you know about my Bible-reading project, but as I went through the Book of Joshua in particular I was appalled by the perky descriptions of how, because God was helping them out, the Israelites put every single man, woman, and child of this kingdom, or that city, or the other region, to the sword. But it's not just them, I'm realizing; "ethnic cleansing" was a commonplace of the ancient world (met any Carthaginians lately?) and, by that standard, the fact that we have a word for it and meet instances of it with horror is a sign of human progress. I have to remember not to roll my eyes at fellow lefties who start to talk about how "more people have been killed in the name of religion than for any other cause." Because no; although often religion can more or less help define the sides, but it is quite rare for someone to kill someone else because of religion. People kill each other, or are mobilized to kill each other, over real estate, access to resources, access to trade, and access to personal power and profit. Peace, man. This would have worked pretty well as a final essay in the political geography class I used to teach.

I don’t know if you know about my Bible-reading project, but as I went through the Book of Joshua in particular I was appalled by the perky descriptions of how, because God was helping them out, the Israelites put every single man, woman, and child of this kingdom, or that city, or the other region, to the sword. But it’s not just them, I’m realizing; “ethnic cleansing” was a commonplace of the ancient world (met any Carthaginians lately?) and, by that standard, the fact that we have a word for it and meet instances of it with horror is a sign of human progress.

I have to remember not to roll my eyes at fellow lefties who start to talk about how “more people have been killed in the name of religion than for any other cause.” Because no; although often religion can more or less help define the sides, but it is quite rare for someone to kill someone else because of religion. People kill each other, or are mobilized to kill each other, over real estate, access to resources, access to trade, and access to personal power and profit.

Peace, man.

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